Louise Despont Draws Deep | ART21 "New York Close Up"
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0:00 - 0:03[Sounds of birds chirping]
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0:03 - 0:09[New York Close Up]
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0:10 - 0:12[Fort Greene, Brooklyn]
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0:15 - 0:17I find that being able to work at home...
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0:18 - 0:20that I wake up in the morning,
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0:20 - 0:22I have breakfast, I start working.
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0:22 - 0:25And it’s a very smooth transition
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0:25 - 0:28directly into the work
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0:28 - 0:32that comes from a quieter,
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0:32 - 0:34more centered place.
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0:45 - 0:47[Louise Despont, Artist]
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0:48 - 0:51[Nicole Wong, Assistant]
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1:08 - 1:12I think we’ll do white dots on these ones,
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1:12 - 1:14up until you reach this small...
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1:14 - 1:15stop before you reach this smallest one.
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1:15 - 1:17So stop on this one.
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1:21 - 1:27What I like about making work this way
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1:27 - 1:30is that I don’t need to wait for an opportunity
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1:30 - 1:34I don’t have to apply for money to do this
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1:34 - 1:37when I can do what I need to do
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1:37 - 1:40and what I want to do simply on paper.
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1:43 - 1:46I like that--that there’s no excuse not
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1:46 - 1:48because it’s so contained.
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1:49 - 1:54To be focused and dedicated to doing one simple
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1:54 - 1:56can perhaps be the most transformative thing.
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1:56 - 2:00That as narrow as it is,
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2:00 - 2:04it can be infinitely deep.
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2:04 - 2:10["Louise Despont Draws Deep"]
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2:15 - 2:19We always associate drawing as being more
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2:19 - 2:22as being more intimate than painting.
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2:22 - 2:24Because, historically, drawings weren’t
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2:24 - 2:27and then when they were, they were shown as,
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2:27 - 2:29the private notebooks of so-and-so,
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2:29 - 2:32or the sketches from these very famous paintings.
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2:35 - 2:39I was doing more oil painting before--
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2:39 - 2:40ten years ago--
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2:40 - 2:42and then, suddenly you see it,
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2:42 - 2:44and you think it's all wrong
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2:44 - 2:48and you need to take a completely different
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2:48 - 2:51And that's when I started working in notebooks
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2:51 - 2:52and doing a lot of collage--
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2:52 - 2:55where there was just, you know, collecting
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2:55 - 2:57and taping them into the book.
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2:57 - 2:59To fill up a book felt nice, you know?
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2:59 - 3:02It didn’t even have to be with anything
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3:02 - 3:06It was just nice to complete a book.
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3:08 - 3:11I think it’s also the nature of working
in a book. -
3:12 - 3:14It’s that the work is private,
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3:14 - 3:17that you’re not making work for people to
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3:17 - 3:20Because if you’re always imagining that
somebody will look at it, -
3:20 - 3:23then maybe you don’t let yourself make the
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3:23 - 3:26that need to be made on the way.
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3:36 - 3:38These ledger books, they’re mostly all for
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3:38 - 3:40keeping track of your expenses,
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3:40 - 3:43of debts and accounts owed.
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3:44 - 3:47I think it’s a different way of accounting
for time -
3:47 - 3:50and for a life spent.
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3:50 - 3:54It becomes the account of every day,
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3:54 - 3:56that I put into the drawing.
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3:58 - 4:00When I started using the stencils,
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4:00 - 4:03it completely changed how I drew.
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4:11 - 4:15This is the first stencil I ever bought,
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4:15 - 4:16which is now all broken.
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4:16 - 4:18I’m really sad about it.
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4:19 - 4:23I think the triangles are the ones I use most.
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4:32 - 4:35Laying out the paper and seeing the dimensions
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4:35 - 4:38can sometimes be the beginning of a drawing.
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4:38 - 4:39You only have to make the first few marks
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4:39 - 4:43and the whole drawing will unravel itself
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4:43 - 4:45in response to that,
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4:45 - 4:49even if you change completely what you thought
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4:49 - 4:53Those few marks contain the seed of the entire
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4:55 - 4:58It’s almost like the drawing guides itself,
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4:58 - 5:01and you’re there to do the weeding
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5:01 - 5:03and the watering and the planting.
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5:03 - 5:05But it will grow on it’s own,
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5:05 - 5:08to a certain extent.
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5:18 - 5:20It’s nice to look at something
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5:20 - 5:22and feel some sort of awe for it,
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5:22 - 5:24that you don’t fully own it
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5:24 - 5:26but that you worked for it.
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5:29 - 5:32Even if it looks very controlled and detailed,
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5:32 - 5:34I feel like I own
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5:34 - 5:40maybe one quarter of it at most. [LAUGHS]
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5:45 - 5:47Each drawing is a discovery--
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5:47 - 5:48tiny discoveries--
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5:48 - 5:52but each one unfolds in a way
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5:52 - 5:56that removes the drawing from total control.
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5:56 - 5:58You’re responsible for your part,
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5:58 - 6:02and something else is responsible for the
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6:02 - 6:05which makes it very exciting.
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6:07 - 6:10It’s a complexity that you can’t think
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6:12 - 6:15It’s like little mineral deposits build
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6:15 - 6:17and make an entire surface.
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6:19 - 6:22I think it's expressive on an energetic level,
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6:22 - 6:24at least that's what I hope.
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6:25 - 6:29I think the work accesses something
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6:29 - 6:31to me that feels very universal.
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6:32 - 6:36There’s something so personal and raw and
unconcrete -
6:36 - 6:41about your relationship to the spiritual,
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6:41 - 6:47and my words will always be this clumsy approximation
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6:47 - 6:50of something that I feel I'm beginning to
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6:50 - 6:53in a symbolic language.
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6:54 - 6:58I feel it’s best explained in the drawings.
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7:19 - 7:22[White Mule, Chelsea]
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7:23 - 7:25[DESPONT] And that’s the Japanese rice mulberry
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7:25 - 7:26[ANNE GIBBS] Mmm hmm.
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7:26 - 7:29The paste that we use is a rice paste,
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7:29 - 7:30so it’s water soluble.
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7:30 - 7:32It can easily be taken off with just a little...
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7:32 - 7:33[Anne Gibbs, Framer]
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7:33 - 7:36you know, humidifying it a little.
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7:52 - 7:54[DESPONT] And then,
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7:54 - 7:59when I have to make the final step from taking
the drawing to the framer, -
8:00 - 8:02I take a last look at it
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8:02 - 8:05because I know it’s the last time to make
changes. -
8:05 - 8:06And when I look at the drawing
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8:06 - 8:11I can see areas that aren’t fully connected
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8:11 - 8:14or fully resolved.
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8:15 - 8:17And those are all openings
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8:17 - 8:19to add something.
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8:19 - 8:21And then when it’s done, it’s like,
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8:21 - 8:22"Don’t touch me!"
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8:22 - 8:25Like, there’s no entry point anymore.
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8:25 - 8:26And that's...
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8:26 - 8:28that always feels very clear.
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